Comments on: Florida Republican Party Wages War on Republican Liberty Caucus: Expels RLC Chair from RPOF Positions http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/ The Conscience of the Republican Party Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dave Nalle http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1803 Dave Nalle Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:06:34 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1803 <i>So your RLC chair has the right to bad mouth the GOP chair, of the party he supposedly wants to help, but can’t be barred from membership when that leader doesn’t like his comments?</i> Exactly. It is horribly inappropriate for a political leader to take reprisals using the mechanisms of the party against someone within the party who criticizes him and his policies. That's despotism, pure and simple. The state party chairman should be above that sort of thing. It's part of what he should expect to deal with as a leadership figure. Dave So your RLC chair has the right to bad mouth the GOP chair, of the party he supposedly wants to help, but can’t be barred from membership when that leader doesn’t like his comments?

Exactly. It is horribly inappropriate for a political leader to take reprisals using the mechanisms of the party against someone within the party who criticizes him and his policies. That’s despotism, pure and simple. The state party chairman should be above that sort of thing. It’s part of what he should expect to deal with as a leadership figure.

Dave

]]> By: daltonsbriefs http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1690 daltonsbriefs Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:50:17 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1690 So your RLC chair has the right to bad mouth the GOP chair, of the party he supposedly wants to help, but can't be barred from membership when that leader doesn't like his comments? You all are quickly running the risk of becoming unimportant ... conservatives are beginning to work together nationwide ... I bet you wish the tea party thing had been your idea? So your RLC chair has the right to bad mouth the GOP chair, of the party he supposedly wants to help, but can’t be barred from membership when that leader doesn’t like his comments?

You all are quickly running the risk of becoming unimportant … conservatives are beginning to work together nationwide … I bet you wish the tea party thing had been your idea?

]]> By: Jason Hellenberg http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1660 Jason Hellenberg Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:08:29 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1660 Regarding George's comment: I thought that was how the law read also, but I can't find anything to that in Florida Statues. Chapter 103 (PRESIDENTIAL ELECTORS; POLITICAL PARTIES; EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES AND MEMBERS) is what I've been looking at (see below for link). http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0103/ch0103.htm Can that law be quoted and referenced? If that is the case, we need to examine the by-laws and figure out how we'll sort this mess out. Regarding George’s comment:
I thought that was how the law read also, but I can’t find anything to that in Florida Statues. Chapter 103 (PRESIDENTIAL ELECTORS; POLITICAL PARTIES; EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES
AND MEMBERS) is what I’ve been looking at (see below for link).

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0103/ch0103.htm

Can that law be quoted and referenced? If that is the case, we need to examine the by-laws and figure out how we’ll sort this mess out.

]]> By: Matt Thomas http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1657 Matt Thomas Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:36:03 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1657 I am applauled but not surprised at the actions of the RPOF. I do like Daniel Sheil's comment above though...lets hope cooler heads prevail. To Mr. Pitts and Mr. Stevens...thank you for all your hard work you do trying to advance liberty. (08 Primary Campaign Supporter and Volenteer) I am applauled but not surprised at the actions of the RPOF. I do like Daniel Sheil’s comment above though…lets hope cooler heads prevail.

To Mr. Pitts and Mr. Stevens…thank you for all your hard work you do trying to advance liberty.

(08 Primary Campaign Supporter and Volenteer)

]]> By: George Whitfield http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1656 George Whitfield Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:26:40 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1656 Welcome to the Revolution. The Libertarian Party of Florida welcomes you. See: http://www.lpf.org Welcome to the Revolution. The Libertarian Party of Florida welcomes you. See: http://www.lpf.org

]]> By: Renee Hairston http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1639 Renee Hairston Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:16:13 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1639 This proves my argument that we should not be involved within the party and REC. Once you join the REC or a Republican club, they have you right where they want you. You can no longer speak your mind! As activists, we can implement real change. As REC members, we are under THEIR control. Don't fool yourself into thinking these people will be the last. I think this is their first step to get every one of us. I am resigning my REC position immediately, so they cannot censor my voice for liberty! This proves my argument that we should not be involved within the party and REC.

Once you join the REC or a Republican club, they have you right where they want you. You can no longer speak your mind! As activists, we can implement real change. As REC members, we are under THEIR control.

Don’t fool yourself into thinking these people will be the last. I think this is their first step to get every one of us. I am resigning my REC position immediately, so they cannot censor my voice for liberty!

]]> By: Daniel Sheill http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1637 Daniel Sheill Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:50:16 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1637 "In response, Orlando Area RLC Organizer Nick Egoroff intends to file a First Amendment suit against Jim Greer and RPOF. Please contact us if you would like to join in the suit." Well, unless Florida law treats the Florida GOP as a state actor, that First Amendment lawsuit will go nowhere. Organizations have a right to regulate themselves and censor individuals whom they believe distort their message and detract from their mission statement. I think Mark Cross was right when he said to watch the process allow for cooler heads to prevail in the next couple weeks before casting aspersions. “In response, Orlando Area RLC Organizer Nick Egoroff intends to file a First Amendment suit against Jim Greer and RPOF. Please contact us if you would like to join in the suit.”

Well, unless Florida law treats the Florida GOP as a state actor, that First Amendment lawsuit will go nowhere. Organizations have a right to regulate themselves and censor individuals whom they believe distort their message and detract from their mission statement. I think Mark Cross was right when he said to watch the process allow for cooler heads to prevail in the next couple weeks before casting aspersions.

]]> By: Vake http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1624 Vake Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:47:02 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1624 What is the RLC's position on Marco Rubio? I donated $20 to his campaign a few weeks ago. What is the RLC’s position on Marco Rubio? I donated $20 to his campaign a few weeks ago.

]]> By: George http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1621 George Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:23:17 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1621 Florida law says anyone removed by the party chair is also removed from their positions in any organization using the Republican name. Sadly, these people will no longer be able to hold RLC positions. Florida law says anyone removed by the party chair is also removed from their positions in any organization using the Republican name. Sadly, these people will no longer be able to hold RLC positions.

]]> By: Michael F Brennan http://www.rlc.org/2009/09/04/jim-greer-war-on-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-1619 Michael F Brennan Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:27:19 +0000 http://www.rlc.org/?p=991#comment-1619 They fear support for Marco Rubio. However we could support him from the Constitution Party which is an inevitable step. They fear support for Marco Rubio. However we could support him from the Constitution Party which is an inevitable step.

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